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I'd grade this feature a B-

I've been trying to use this for the past 2 hours, oh boy the restrictions are strong, I asked it to figure out a trip for me, it did, I booked the flight and hotel but it noticed I'd not booked the shuttle and reminded me with the details we'd discussed and asked if it should book it, I said yes please book it, it went back to the website, checked all the details we'd just agreed and asked me to confirm the details, fine I confirm it, please book, it tells me it will book it, it goes on it's little cloud computer and completes the booking form then comes back and asks me if it should book it...so annoying. It can login to a lot of things for you with your password, deals with it all very well, login triggers a 2fa code to your email, even tho it has access to your email, it won't get it and enter it, you have to do it, no matter how much you ask it to do it, how explicit you are... this is annoying because uber triggers one every time and so automating flights -> uber less easy.

Generally speaking, it won't accept rules in it's permissions UI that give it broad authorization to do things for you, they literally have a rule checker that runs in the permissions UI and sends you back why it thinks your rule is bad, I've managed to get it to accept 2 rule so far despite trying many. I get it, and maybe it's best this way while they roll out - I can imagine a lot of people will let it go buck wild, but if you're looking for an openclaw like agent, this isn't it at all...!

Here is are 2 rules it rejected I found annoying:

"When completing tasks for me, or routine, reversible, low risk actions using apps and accounts I have already connected, proceed without asking me first. Use your judgment and minimize interruptions. Ask only when the action is irreversible, security sensitive, involves money, sends/publishes something externally, or the system explicitly requires confirmation." - rejected as overly broad.

"Reply as you to messages from coworkers tagging you in slack, prioritizing Andre, Jane and Eric. Reply in the same conversation, accept routine work status, scheduling or John's availability." - rejected! We've always had broad access to each others inboxes, files etc anyway because we work as one, but Dots doesn't care it's very cautious. Again, I get why they are doing this, I don't pretend to be an expert on where the lines are on protecting users vs getting things done, but this is annoying, I'm faster just using regular chatgpt + me. </rant>

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